Marija with Ivan in Medjugorje in June, 2012
Marija: Being on
Earth is Living Purgatory
By Jakob Marschner on
September 26, 2012
Paradise exists;
the Medjugorje visionaries say they all saw it in the 1980s, but a conscious
decision for God while on earth is needed to get there.
These were the
main themes when visionary Marija Pavlovic-Lunetti delivered the Virgin Mary’s
monthly message on Radio Maria on September 25: “Dear children! When in
nature you look at the richness of the colors which the Most High gives to you,
open your heart and pray with gratitude for all the good that you have and say:
‘I am here created for eternity’ – and yearn for heavenly things because God
loves you with immeasurable love. This is why He also gave me to you to tell
you: ‘Only in God is your peace and hope, dear children’. Thank you for having
responded to my call.”
Radio Maria
director, Fr. Livio Fanzaga, opened his talk with the seer. “I don’t know if you
have noticed that in Our Lady’s messages of this year, we are reminded of
Eternity, Heaven. Do you suppose it is because we don’t think enough about
that?”
Marija
replied,“True. I think She wants to ‘stick to that subject’ because the world is
too attached to earthly things, and She is back to a theme of the early years:
‘Me instead of Thee.’ She repeats, ‘Place God before everything,’ and it can
seem like telling a story at times, because we might not be living our faith
with an open heart and sincerity.”
“Daily life can
seem to be removed from – or another world when compared to – living your faith,
but Our Lady wants us to combine the two, by saying ‘Dear children, you cannot
go on in this way.’ Many times She has repeated to us that without God you have
neither a future nor eternal life. She repeats it, and we repeat it. Today the
focus is on worldly values.”
[Fr. Livio] - The
visionaries have seen Paradise, some even in their body. Do you feel nostalgic
towards it?
“Yes, and in a big
way. The five minutes with Her make us want to have God in our hearts to carry
us the entire day; at that point we have Paradise in our hearts. Our Lady would
like us to do everything in God; we might still think of ‘apparition
time’ or ‘Mass time’ or ‘time to eat’ or ‘sleep time.’”
[Fr. Livio] -
Marija, I am thinking about this: You have seen Paradise, but when you have been
with Her five minutes, you have been in Paradise again. Our Lady is Paradise
that comes down to Earth. After you have seen Our Lady, how do you feel about
returning here?
“Like I am in
Purgatory, Father Livio – nothing less because, as you say, we feel nostalgic
towards Paradise. We hope to attain Paradise even here and now, but we are
distant; even we need conversion.”
[Fr. Livio] - We
don’t see Her, but when She comes through a visionary, we are reminded that our
goal is Paradise, and She brings a bit of it down, but I have noticed many times
that Our Lady has had us find the presence of God by looking at nature. In
particular She recalls this by the colors of flowers or those of nature. She
invites us to read nature in a mystical way, like St Francis.
“Yes, probably
because in nature our heart is closer to God. We are marveled by the colors and
such. Even this evening, She said, ‘Say: I was created for eternity’ and ‘yearn
for the heavenly things.’ Think about God, think about the love of God that
there is for us.”
At this point Fr.
Livio Fanzaga looked ahead into October, the month dedicated to the prayer of
the Rosary, and as such, a month especially devoted to a most integral part of
the Medjugorje message:
[Fr. Livio] - I
would like to ask one last question. We are about to start the month of October,
the month of the Rosary. Our Lady has asked for it, daily, and all the
mysteries.
“True, She has
asked for the Rosary as Her preferred prayer, and She calls for it daily – not
only the Rosary, but that our life becomes a prayer. Through it, we open our
hearts to Her, and She said, through it, She can intercede to God for us,
because our heart opens.”
“Some object to
the Rosary as repetitious, but Our Lady replies that if you love someone you say
one-thousand times ‘I love you.’ Through the Rosary, we give our litany in our
own small way.”
[Fr. Livio] -
Our Lady has insisted on the Rosary within the family.
“She says if a
family prays, it is holy – if it does not, it is far from God. She asks us to
make prayer the central point of our daily life. A family that is in God goes
forward. If not, we have no future perspectives.”
[Fr. Livio] -
You have four boys. Is it hard for you to have the Rosary said in your
family?
“When they were
smaller it was simpler. I have to thank God that even today they gladly pray. I
hope it always grows. I also hope so through my example and my life.”
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